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lofty waterman
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Hi does any one know owing to the nature of Wrestling and promotors and the fact that not all MASKED wrestlers are who they say they are ie as we know other wrestlers do done the hood to be that Famous Masked wrestler Has any one else ever been Count bartelli when he was masked.

all the best

keep up the good work

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Lofty Waterman

February 13, 2018 at 11:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

frank thomas
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Rumour went around that there was more than one Kendo! This was told to me as a youngster by a well known wrestler who swore he had socialised with both! There was, in the late 70s, early 80s, a "masked Count Bartelli" advertised on a bill in Bedworth, a member of the public noticed the disparity in height, weight etc. And went onto a consumer type programme on TV! They had the real Count Bartelli(Jeff Condliffe) in the studio, to dispel and quell the rumour. The only live viewing I had of a masked 'imposter' featured the Exorcist. Normally it was Clayton Thomson behind the mask, but Honey Boy Zimba knocked him from pillar to post, and when the mask came off, it was a wrestler named Brian Hunt, who was something of a "serial" masked man around the halls in the North.
February 13, 2018 at 12:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

frank thomas
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Also recall that when Clive Myers started doing his "Iron Fist" schtick, he wore a mask, but it was so obvious it was Clive that it was soon discarded.
February 13, 2018 at 12:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bernard Hughes
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I think That Ron unearthed 3 or4 "The Ghouls.
Mind you in my eyes there was only one worthy of the name.

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February 13, 2018 at 1:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

djmask
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I believe there was more than one masked ‘Kung Fu. When he appeared in a bout in Scotland the masked Kung Fu had the same body blemishes as the wrestler who won the first bout of the night.

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February 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM Flag Quote & Reply

powerlock
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djmask at February 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM

I believe there was more than one masked ‘Kung Fu. When he appeared in a bout in Scotland the masked Kung Fu had the same body blemishes as the wrestler who won the first bout of the night.

A wrestler doubling up by wearing a mask surely not. We saw a lookalike show when my lads were little it featured The Undertaker and kane one in first half the other after the interval, both wore the same wig, and boot's. Same build, same walk and the wig nearly came off on both of them and only one appeared at the rumble at the end
February 13, 2018 at 3:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Anglo Italian
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L'Ange Blanc and Doctor Death were both copied on a grand scale.


Nagasaki's missing finger, whilst undeniably a sore and sad loss, was actually a hallmark of authenticity that none could copy.

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February 13, 2018 at 5:53 PM Flag Quote & Reply

frank thomas
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Anglo Italian at February 13, 2018 at 5:53 PM

L'Ange Blanc and Doctor Death were both copied on a grand scale.


Nagasaki's missing finger, whilst undeniably a sore and sad loss, was actually a hallmark of authenticity that none could copy.

Hi Anglo, remember the missing finger, he was alleged to have lost it in some kind of Yakuza ritual, but Max put everybody right: "Mafia? Rubbish! He lost it working at Jennings, the horse box manufacturers in Crewe"!
February 13, 2018 at 6:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply

frank thomas
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djmask at February 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM

I believe there was more than one masked ‘Kung Fu. When he appeared in a bout in Scotland the masked Kung Fu had the same body blemishes as the wrestler who won the first bout of the night.

Both Ian Gilmour and Mike "flash" Jordan were rumoured to have "done" the Kung Fu role. I saw a wrestler billed as "the continental Kung Fu" face Syd Cooper at Liverpool in the 70s, no idea as to his ID though..
February 13, 2018 at 6:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

djmask
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frank thomas at February 13, 2018 at 6:06 PM

djmask at February 13, 2018 at 3:34 PM

I believe there was more than one masked ‘Kung Fu. When he appeared in a bout in Scotland the masked Kung Fu had the same body blemishes as the wrestler who won the first bout of the night.

Both Ian Gilmour and Mike "flash" Jordan were rumoured to have "done" the Kung Fu role. I saw a wrestler billed as "the continental Kung Fu" face Syd Cooper at Liverpool in the 70s, no idea as to his ID though..

The Kung FU I saw was Alan Miquet.

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February 13, 2018 at 6:33 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bill Smith
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I saw the "real" Kung Fu ...Eddie Hamill   Kendo Nagasaki unmasked him

I saw a "fake" on the same bill as Ian Gilmour.....the fake was nothing like the Eddie Hamill version.

mmmmmmmmmmmm  wonder who he was?????

February 13, 2018 at 6:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mad Mac
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Wasn't Ian Gilmour Kamikaze?

February 13, 2018 at 8:09 PM Flag Quote & Reply

David Mantell
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The Kamikaze who lost by TKO to Jim Breaks and Tally Ho Kaye in the early 80s was certainly Ian Gilmour.  However, Kamikaze is an older gimmick from Spanish wrestling in the 60s.  There was also another Kamikaze in RWS in the early 90s who appeared on the Battle Of The Brits video and on Grampian TV.

February 14, 2018 at 1:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

David Mantell
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"More than one Kendo" is an old one and occasionally some idiot comes out with in on here, no less.  One good thing about the unnmaskings is that you can see that it's the same Peter Thornley getting older over the years.

The "Yakuza connection" was a product of Simon Garfield's over-excited imagination.

February 14, 2018 at 1:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

David Mantell
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Arthur Buffalo Bison from 1979 was definitely not the Mr X on TV in 1988.


Red Devil was Charlie Glover and Bill Clarke (and I think someone mentioned another one recently?)

February 14, 2018 at 1:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

matey dave
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the most exciting unmasking i saw was when captain marvel took the hood off the scorpion to reveal it was bentley. much better the the silly unmasking cermony peter thornley did and more convincing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-W69DFw4Hs&index=12&list=PL0y_pNxamlHSsWG89pnfuFF5LE_DQgHNb



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February 14, 2018 at 7:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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