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Andy
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Living in a seaside town, wrestling was only live for 6-8 weeks during the summer. However, some guys were regular visitors (every other week) while some never seemed to come. 

Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks used to be the main event on alternate weeks, then when they changed promoters we had Kendo and Rocco doing similar. But during my early years the guys I saw most I would say were (in no particular order):

Steve Grey/ Sid Cooper/ Tally Ho Kaye/ Johnny Kidd/ Ironfist/ Lucky Gordon/ BlackJack Mulligan/ Mike Jordan/ Mal Sanders/ Danny Collins/ Marty Jones/ Dave Finlay/ Skull Murphy/ King Kong Kirk/ Scrubber Daly/ Ray Steele/ Pete Roberts/ Pat Patton/ John Naylor/ Tom Tyrone/Rasputin/Rocky Moran / Tom Thumb/ Pete LaPaque/ John Wilkie

Then there were guys who I only saw once - Alan Dennison/ Jim Breaks/ Vic Faulkner/ Mick McMichael

And those I never saw at all - Johnny Wilson/ Brian Maxine/ Pat Roach/ Gil Singh/ Tony St Clair/ Wayne Bridges/ Ian Muir

Wish I could have seen John Quinn and Sammy Lee live. Did see Kwik Kik Lee, Crusher Brannigan and Fuji Yamada live.

Great Days!

February 28, 2018 at 10:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

frank thomas
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Remember in the 1970s, Eric "Tug" Wilson appearing at Liverpool Stadium on a regular basis, mostly against Johnny Saint. On the wrestlers I never saw "live" Andy Robin(although some tell me I never missed much)! And lamentably I missed a rare Mick McManus appearance "up north" due to having to appear in a national school sports competition which necessitated an "early night" according to my dad!
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February 28, 2018 at 11:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

james morton
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Paul Lincoln as Dr Death in the naive hope he would be unmasked - how young I must have been. And after he defeated Al Hayes as the White Angel at Tooting, I believe,  I don't think I ever went to the wrestling again. Certainly I never paid to go.

February 28, 2018 at 12:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Anglo Italian
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Haha, the mirror image of you, Frank.  Mick McManus was the one I probably saw most, and actually got a bit tored of, because he wasn't a risk-taker and there were few surprises in his bouts, especially endless ones against Alan Colbeck.  Years later through this site and internet and reflection I have learned to watch his every move and grimace and enjoy him.

I never saw Ian Campbell and missed a couple of good chances, that was a clumsy miss.  Why is it that when you haven't seen them you imagine they must be fantastic?

Saw Tornado Torontos countless times;  Ivan Penzecoff;  Czeslaw;  Clay Thomson, Bob Kirkwood, Elrington, Tibor, Boscik, Bobby Barnes, Les Kellett.

Only saw Rex Strong once and thought he was great.

Oh, I never saw Billy Joyce and would have loved to.  Hard to remember things you haven't done.

And Quasimodo passed me by.  He was on in Worthing once and I wanted to go but it was just too far.


Never saw Hans Streiger.  Sounds like I missed a treat.



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February 28, 2018 at 2:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Les Prest
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Hi Andy: I suppose it was slightly different for me, as I was on the other side of the fence so to speak. But probably the most well known wrestlers in my circle that I was on the same bill or wrestled was Eric Leiderman, (you might not of herd of him but he did wrestle for Joint) Norman Walsh, Johnny Peters & magnificent Maurice/Colonel Brody, they were the same person(Sean Arnott). You mentioned not seeing Andy Robin and some said you did'nt miss much, well Im sure you did, he was/is such a character I wrestled on the same bill at Motherwell and Darlington and his party piece was for 3 men to struggle lifting a 1000-- 20 truck wheel into the ring for Andy to lift it above his head 3 times then challenge anyone else to do the same that included other wrestlers, he also specialised in his power lock which was a version of a figure 4 leg hold which always got a submission he was good to watch when he was wrestling Leon Arras, he was very flamboyant in every way. He also promoted around Scotland I wrestled for him a few times at Dumfries and Galloway area. regards Les☺
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February 28, 2018 at 2:11 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Les Prest
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P.S. I never mentioned Andy Robins bear Hercules who he used to wrestle at open air events, that was something different. If it ever sat on him at 50 stone Hercules would of squashed him his wife Maggie was always on hand to throw a fish for Hercules if it got out of hand. regards Les.😁
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February 28, 2018 at 2:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ron Historyo
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For me I would have to take out Nagasaki as I targeted him and would miss Belle Vue if I could get to somewhere else to see him. Must have seen him more than any other.

Beyond that and I am sure the reason was local men , I seemed to see a hell of a lot of Colin Joynson , Abe Ginsberg , Bert and Vic and Johnny Saint , Tony StClair , Adrian Street , Breaks , Dennison. Every one of them was a bonus if they provided bouts to go with Nagasaki and many others. In later years saw lots of Rocco and Jones. Also saw a lot of Albert Wall and Shirley Crabtree.

I count myself lucky that over the years I saw most. Missed out though on Zebra Kid. And for that matter Garfield.

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February 28, 2018 at 4:17 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bernard Hughes
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Hi Andy. The wrestlers that I saw at Newcastle most often  were The Ghoul, Norman Walsh, Alf Rawlings Dennis Mitchell and Farmer Johnny Allan.

The person that I saw most, even though he was not always wrestling was Les Kellett.

The ones that I loved to see were Geoff Portz, George Kidd, Johnny Stead and Bernard Murray.

I never saw many wrestlers  live after 1960.

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February 28, 2018 at 5:15 PM Flag Quote & Reply

powerlock
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At the city Hall Newcastle in the early 1970s Adrian Street both singles and tag, likewise Jackie Pallo, and for some reason we seemed to always have Peter Kaye on the bill. We used to joke was that he must have slept under the ring as it seemed he was always on
February 28, 2018 at 6:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Les Prest
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Bernard: Am I right in saying that Les Kelett started off as a referee!!! regards Les.
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February 28, 2018 at 6:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

matey dave
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pallo, mcmanus, kellet, logan. seamus donlevy, stev videor,clayton thomson, iron jaw joe murphy, alan miquet, billy robinson, ray appolon, billy stock, peter mavia, texas jack bence, joe cornelius, bruno, tibor and peter, josef zarnoff, josef kovacs, reg trood, julian morice, gladys the impaler, adrian street, jonny allan, danny lynch, tug hulton, johnny yearsley, hans strieger, mal kirk, supreme virgin of mablethorpe, ken joyce, billy torontos, spencer churchill, lucky sumonovich,

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February 28, 2018 at 7:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

powerlock
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Les Prest at February 28, 2018 at 6:52 PM

Bernard: Am I right in saying that Les Kelett started off as a referee!!! regards Les.

He did indeed Les, my dad said he used to see him as a referee and occasionally get in the ring as a late substitue when they had a no show. Dad was surprised to see him wrestling as late an age as he did. And we are talking about 1970 here and Les went on for a good few years after that.Bernard should be able to tell you a lot more
February 28, 2018 at 8:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Philip Kenyon
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Hi Andy,

I’m the same as Les Prest, looking in from the other side so to speak.

I remember being mostly on the same bills as Ian St. John against his old friend Andreas Svajick (only one of his many names), but also Dominic Pye, Cowboy Jack Cassidy, Joe Reid, Jim Bevan, Bob Sherry and of course a lot of others.

Cheers

 

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March 1, 2018 at 2:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ron Historyo
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Les Prest at February 28, 2018 at 6:52 PM

Bernard: Am I right in saying that Les Kelett started off as a referee!!! regards Les.

Les started as a wrestler , says in the A-Z before the war. I can only pick him up in 1944. BY about 1947 he was actually promoting at Hartlepool which no doubt led him to also having to referee. Yes he did a lot of Refing and seems to have had a long career of which the first part we know little about , except that he was one of the great TV wrestlers that could have remembered the earlier guys. Yes guys like Kellett , Bartelli and Hussey could have told us so much about the old days.

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March 1, 2018 at 3:22 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Sapper James
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Some of the more local wrestlers would promote as well as working for Joint and Dale Martin. The most featured wrestlers in my area were Shane Stevens, Steve Sadler / Slater, Gunner Steve Johnson, Dick Harrison, Bill Clarke, Dale Broughton / Preston, Tony Stewart, Blondie Barratt, Axel Strong, Sergeant Sizzler and Rob Storm. The Leeds-based wrestlers often came down too, namely Kashmir Singh, Ritchie Brooks, Spinner McKenzie and Danny Collins. Shirley and Haystacks often topped the bill but I never saw them on the same show. The most "over" was Kendo by a long chalk. He would work the house into a frenzy; proper value for money.

March 1, 2018 at 5:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Paul
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A toss up for me. I used to go to the Hexagon Reading for my birthday and this invariably featured Big Daddy. But I also followed Marty Jones closeley particualrly in his feuds with Fit Finlay and Mark Rocco. 

March 1, 2018 at 5:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Andy
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I missed a couple out - saw Catweazle many times, always enjoyable but never saw Johnny Saint, one of my favourites on TV. Both Richie Brooks and Ian McGregor became regulars eventually along with Bobby Barnes, Barry Douglas and Big John Prayter.

When my local venue was using Pallo Promotions (around 1977/78 at a guess) I saw Pallo and Son regular, along with Les Kellet, Adrian Street, Johnny Kincaid, John Kowalski and Ironfist was on there too. Also first saw Tom Thumb, Steve Young (who became Skull Murphy I believe) and a young Dave Finlay. Also among the roster were Danny Lynch and Eddie Hamill but never saw them and The Borg Twins were billed once but never showed, due to a car crash according to the MC. 


March 1, 2018 at 6:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Bernard Hughes
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Sorry Les, I have just seen your query about Les Kellett.

Yes Les was the regular referee at st.James Hall when I first started going there in1948.

He was there almost weekly up till about1953/4 time and occasionally we got Ernest Lofthouse.

Lofthouse was the second referee in the ring ( with Les ) in the return match between Sandy Orford and Dai Sullivan.

I have told this story before, but briefly, in the first match Orford punched Sullivan in the stomach and whilst he was winded took him down with a cross buttock for the winning pinfall.

Of course all of the crowd saw the punch ,but Les didn't.

After the uproar, Les came back with the next two fighters, and announced that due to the unsatisfactory end to the bout, they would fight again in 2 weeks time with 2 refs.

In the return, they were at 1 fall each, Orford was in front of Sullivan with a arm hammerlock up Sullivan's back. He swung him round and round as if looking to get away from the 2 ref's eagle eyes.

Sullivan had his arm dangling out and Les trying to get a closer look was hit by it.

Les then disappeared from the ring , Orford punched ,got the pinfall and Lofthouse counted the 1-2-3. This may have been the way that Lofthouse was introduced and Les was not there long after this.

Power said about Les filling in for a missing wrestler.This happened quite often. Which was convenient and entertaining because Les was always a hard man.

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March 1, 2018 at 5:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Dave Sutherland
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I was fortunate enough to see most of the top heavyweights Geoff Portz, Albert Wall, Billy Joyce, Dennis Mitchell, Ian Campbell, John Lees, Johnny Allen, Earl Maynard, Norman Walsh etc. on quite a regular basis but possibly the wrestler that I saw more than any other was Frankie Robb who was a local middleweight and often featured in the opening bout of the evening.

My regrets are never seeing live Roy Bull Davis, Dia Sullivan and Alf Rawlings.


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March 2, 2018 at 8:03 AM Flag Quote & Reply

mark
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I saw ' Banger ' Tony Walsh, Steve Grey and Mick McManus many times and it was always a real pleasure. Although, Mick's Bouts were always very predictable in the outcome, they were always enjoyable and he was a real entertainer. I still can't believe its now over 30 years plus since i saw them, but with Youtube, the happy memories are always there.

Cheers,


Mark.

March 2, 2018 at 11:11 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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