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Ruslan Pashayev
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Dear Friends,

I am trying to find info on the Champion Belt which was held by following individulas:

Ray Glendenning, Jimmy Devlin, Johnny Allan Farmer, Jack Taylor, Tony Cortez, Peter Smith and most likely many other wrestlers.

According to memories of some champions the belt was known as Don Robinson Belt.

I would highly appreciate any info on that subject. Thanks.Kind regards, Ruslan

November 7, 2017 at 5:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Hack
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It might help to see the belts Ruslan is referring to.

Farmer Johnny Allan


Jack Taylor



Jimmy Devlin




Ray Glendenning



Tony Cortez



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British wrestling - great characters but the plot was always a bit of a mystery.

November 9, 2017 at 12:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Anglo Italian
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Great post, Hack.


I hope Ruslan appreciates the lengths you have gone to in response to his first comments?

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Still trying to work out what was going on!

November 9, 2017 at 4:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

SaxonWolf
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I think they could be either European or World (European version) belts.  Jack Taylor held both European and World (European version) Welterweight belts in the 70's, and the picture of Tony Cortez, above, says he is the European Lightweight Champion. 

November 9, 2017 at 5:51 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ron Historyo
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I really rated Ray Thunder Glendenning but had no idea he had ever sported a Belt

Digging deep into the archive I found a bill to confirm it but the question is who supplied such a mixture of wrestlers.


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November 10, 2017 at 2:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Hack
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British junior heavyweight champion. That's a new one.

All the photos seem to be from a time when these fellas were working for the independents, so o widely acknowledged champions. Looks like the same belt but a big weight difference between Devlin/Cortez and Glendenning/Allan.

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November 10, 2017 at 3:39 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Bernard Hughes
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Hi Hack. I think that at one time there was a mix-up between the British Midheavyweight class and the American Junior heavyweight class.

As we normally follow the States (on everything but time) I think that some promotions used the american version.

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November 10, 2017 at 5:10 PM Flag Quote & Reply

james morton
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Great stuff as always Ron. But who were Hill Billy Bert and The Hood? 

November 10, 2017 at 5:20 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Hack
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Bernard Hughes at November 10, 2017 at 5:10 PM

Hi Hack. I think that at one time there was a mix-up between the British Midheavyweight class and the American Junior heavyweight class.

As we normally follow the States (on everything but time) I think that some promotions used the american version.

Although you're right Bernard, we had Tony Mancelli and Mike Marino as Junior Heavyweight Champion this advert from Ron is from 1968, much later. And it's on the independents; it was a label that meant nothing.

Hill Billy Bert was a fella called Bert Ellam who Eddie Rose has written about on a few occasions.

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British wrestling - great characters but the plot was always a bit of a mystery.

November 10, 2017 at 5:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Ron Historyo
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james morton at November 10, 2017 at 5:20 PM

Great stuff as always Ron. But who were Hill Billy Bert and The Hood? 

No idea who The Hood was.

A strange collection of wrestlers with Bartelli in there although I have often found him switching from Joint to Indy.

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November 11, 2017 at 3:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

james morton
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Thanks Hack

November 11, 2017 at 5:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Anglo Italian
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The Hood will have been one of the four in the tag!

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November 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hack
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Anglo Italian at November 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM

The Hood will have been one of the four in the tag!

What a suspicious mind.

Probably right though.


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British wrestling - great characters but the plot was always a bit of a mystery.

November 11, 2017 at 11:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hack
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Jimmy Devlin says the belt was for the European lightweight championship. He didn't get to keep the belt; it was brought along for the photo to be taken by Don Robinson.

Tony Cortez is also European lightweight champion. I don't recall him working for Don Robinson or seeing him in the north. It would be useful to know where the photo on the cover of Ringsport was taken and who by. Is it the same belt or a similar one?

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British wrestling - great characters but the plot was always a bit of a mystery.

November 12, 2017 at 4:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ruslan Pashayev
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Dear Hack, thanks so much for everything and appreciate your time and your help a lot !!! It means a lot to me ! It is one of my very favorite English title belts. One facebook friend of mine told me that: "This belt was made by Stoker Brooks nearly 60 year ago the emblem was from a piece of Victorian furniture". Unfortunately I dont have any good quality pics of that belt. But yeah its the same belt used by all those characters both mid heavies and lightweights. And yes I do think the right person to ask is the actual owner of the belt - Don Robinson.



November 16, 2017 at 7:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ruslan Pashayev
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I think what also can clarify the situation is the better quality picture of the belt's centre piece, it should have some inscriptions or engravings etc.

November 16, 2017 at 7:34 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ruslan Pashayev
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https://imgur.com/a/cmfWd

November 16, 2017 at 7:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Ruslan Pashayev
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Heres a better pic of Jack Taylor with that belt.

November 16, 2017 at 7:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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